Assignment Four

Assignment Five

Assignment Four Overview

1.          Interview a person who experienced a historical event.

2.          Post potential interviewee. Give and receive feedback on potential source.

3.          Read and answer questions from text.

4.          Post interview of three to five pages of the interview written in standard essay form for feedback.

5.          Give feedback on all interviews.

6.          Research topic in newspapers, magazines, books.

7.          Post research material for feedback.

8.          Give feedback on research information.

9.          Write and post discussion of research and interview.

10.     Give feedback on discussion.

11.     Write and post rough draft.

12.     Give feedback on drafts.

Assignment Four is the shortest, in terms of messages and duration, of the five. There were only 60 messages in the month long assignment, which required students to interview a person who experienced a particular historical event. Participants were then expected to research the event in newspapers, journals, and books. This information was to be combined in an essay of 1700 words or more. The task was complex, and students immediately had trouble "interpreting" what was expected of them.

Online Technologies

Difficulties in Interpretation of Assignments. Rhonda began with, "Can anyone tell me where, in the assignment description, it says that this has to be research on something historical???" Moreover, in the same message, she expressed her dissatisfaction, "This assignment has me so frustrated!" Julie also posted a message admitting her confusion, "For assignment that's due on Saturday, what actually do we have to answer?" Monica had difficulty with understanding the minimum number of resources needed, "When you try to find the research material, how many materials we have to use?" In fact, she had a whole series of problems with the assignment: she didn't understand the different types of materials that could be used as references, nor how to cite them when she did find any. In another message, Rhonda continued to express her frustration, "And what if I can't find an author for the article on the net? And what if I can't even find the article again because I can't remember how I got to that site?" Following that message she wrote,

I am having trouble figuring out where to put paranthetical references. Often all of the information in my paragraph will be taken from the same book, same page. Should my p.r.refer only to the previous sentence, or what? I can't seem to find anything specific in the book (text)?

Reading and Understanding Online Text. Monica continued to have trouble comprehending exactly what she read, expressing that the examples were "very unclear about how to list net info in Works cited. The example they give is so lame. And they don't explain it. What is that underlined thing?" Furthermore, she couldn't decipher from the assignment what was expected,

For the discussion session for this paper, am I writing the effect to me if I did not leave China? Or am I suppose to wirte what is the importance of the Cultrual Revolution during that time period? Please help me to understand this discussion session idea. I will help my mail at home, and I hope I can get some reply by that time.

"Etalk" Versus Rhetoric. Steve's messages in this category show an increased awareness of audience. While he still uses "etalk," he does so only after taking care of class business, as evidenced in missive sent to Carl,

I couldn't agree more, with what you said. Personally I think it's great that you would, and could comment on all our papers as well as your own group. I especially enjoy your feedback, and look forward to it. aLoHa, Steve a.k.a. -Da Boy a.k.a. -Da Kid a.k.a. The Waialaeboy  p.s. Just for those of you who wanted to know (grinz).

Problems of Unstructured Time and the "Newness". Three students displayed problems with time management during this assignment, Monica noted, "Thank you for letting me know the rought draft is due today, I just can not keep up all the schedule." Rhonda wrote, "once again, i am missing deadlines, and it looks like Robert is Also."

Method of Delivery: Technology. The largest area of concern was with technology. Many students had complaints. Rhonda vented, "This assignment has me so frustrated! I don't have a computer at home, and I have real trouble getting in touch." Robert worried about virus problems, "IF ANYONE HAPPENS TO GET THIS E-MAIL THAT CONTAINS THE VIRUS CAN U PLEASE SEND IT ME." But most were concerned about access. Carl wrote, "it took me this long to get back on-line just to send this! Wow!" Sue commented about the main computer being down. "Hey everyone! The unix is still down since 4 pm today."  The teacher had to change due dates because of the system, "The system went down this afternoon for quite a few hours, and it's affected many of you. The deadline for the completed interview will be switched to April 11, Friday (midnight); the feedback re interviews will be due on Sunday." Melinda had trouble with strange email messages, "I've been having problems sending messages. Whenever I try to send something I get an error message that say's "go suck spam."

 Process: Writing and Pedagogy

Little activity took place in the way of discussion about their writing either in regards to their topics or their processes. Melinda was the only student who shared her topic selection, "I've narrowed my subject and I plan to talk about ILWU and the plantation."

Product: Assignments

Despite the lack of "writing talk," some work was accomplished. All students but Robert posted their rough interviews. However, after the initial work, sporadic participation ensued. Monica, Sue, Steve, and Julie completed the next assignment, reading, then responding to a series of question about note cards and documentation. Melinda, Cassandra, and Rhonda posted their research material. Rhonda, Cassandra, and Carl sent their discussion information. However, Monica, Carl, Sue, Melinda, Rhonda, and Cassandra turned in final drafts of this assignment.

Through the duration of the assignment, the professor revised the schedule four times to accommodate the class, going so far as to suggest that groups give feedback to group members only. The first time, as noted previously, was due to technology, but the others were due to class participation. The first came six days after the start of the assignment. "I've made some adjustments in the due dates for paper #4. We can't make any more!" The second change was sent three days later. The third was sent with a long message, explaining various ways he was willing to help students: meeting with them at the library, performing a web search for them, or meeting in his office. The final revision arrived in the student mailboxes along with Assignment Five,

I don't think I've received all the RD4s. If you haven't shared yours with your group/the class yet, please do so ASAP. Also, I don't think everyone has responded to the RD4s in his/her group. These should be completed by this evening (Tues), midnight. I'll be sending my comments this morning and this evening. REVISED DUE DATE: SATURDAY, MAY 3.

Communication

When reviewing the 60 messages sent during this assignment, only three could be construed as communicative in nature. In response to the teacher's suggestion sending drafts to group members only, Carl wrote,

Just a thought  . . . I would love to continue to read the contributions of my peers even though we have broken off into smaller, more manageble groups. Even though I'm not responsible for commenting on other group submissions, I would still find the reading a good learning experience. I like smaller groups; it enhances support. I would just like to see all work longer than 250 words sent to the entire class so we can read more-and ultimately, think more. (Or so it says here on my box of Fruity-Pebbles!!)Plus, chances are, low-life's like myself with nothing better to do at 3:00 am on a school night can comment if they feel compelled to, superficially or as a cheer leader encourage people who write/create. I guess what I'm trying so say is that sometimes people write things that strike a cord. And it's fun to tell people how it made you feel to read it.

Monica responded,

I love Carl idea, that you send the copy to the class instead of your group only. That way you can learn from the other classmates and see how is everything going in the other groups. If you have time can reply to them, if not you can just reply to your group members. What a super idea, and I always love suprises.

Steve sent a message indicating his agreement. However, there is an indication that not everyone read the messages sent through to the group. After the above interchange, Julie wrote, "I have a question to ask you. Do we respond to everyone's interview or just the member's in our group? I'm just responding to the member's. I've been getting some people interviews from other groups."

Feedback

The category that received the most attention for this assignment was in feedback. To start this lesson, the teacher gave more explicit directions than he had previously.

QUALITY OF FEEDBACK: Feedback that is superficial will be considered "late"; i.e., be sure to offer substantive suggestions or comments when responding to your groupmates' work. (I will read all your work and comments! A comment that consists of "I like your topic" will be considered superficial.)

The quality of peer comments improved during this assignment after this, but it is not clear that the improvement was motivated by this comment. As Carl stated, "It really does wonders for a writer when he/she receives feedback from readers -- especially encouraging feedback." The movement from corrective comments to feedback that aids revision was offered by all who participated.

Robert, one student who did not do any of this assignment, still offered revision comments to his peers. He advised one peer, "Maybe you could explain it more in the research part of your paper. You could also elaborate more on how the strike ended." To another he suggested, "It doesn't really focus on one thing or have a main idea(I think). Oh, there are some sentence errors in the interview." Of course, he still, at times, relied upon corrective comments only, "VERY LONG THESIS, BUT IT IS CLEAR AND ACCURATE TO UNDERSTAND. SENTENCES WHICH ARE UNCLEAR ARE IN BRACKETS," and "Interesting paper."

Others offered in-depth analysis, modeling the cushion method -- say something positive before saying something negative, then end with something positive -- practiced by many contemporary composition teachers (Flower, 1976; Murray, 1985). Carl remarked to Sue,

You've really put together some nice stuff. I especially enjoyed the conclusion/discussion ending of your paper. My only concern is that as a reader, I missed some of the details that would make your story/thesis more interesting. I'm not sure it would work, but when you did you research you could have looked up ads in the newspaper that would provide us readers with stuff like what specials KC Drive-In was running and how much, articles about how that culture was influenced by this or that and how that made them better people. Even a couple lines from a favorite song of you mother's can give us a snapshot into a world before our time. (Steven King is great at using song lyrics to create a theme for a chapter or a major point.) I'm not saying that your paper needs anything more or less, I just want to provide you with my perspective on what might help you drive your thesis home.

Rhonda, too, showed her careful reading of a peer's work, though she neglected to "cushion" her comments, offering only one vote of confidence at the end. She wrote,

WOULD SUGGEST USING "UNTIL" IN PLACE OF "TILL" IN THE FIRST SENTENCE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE BIG FIVE ARE? FIRST SENTENCE NEEDS TO BE STRONGER: "THE SCHOOL IN P. ONLY TOOK KIDS THROUGH THE EIGHTH GRADE. MR. KAND'S OLDER BROTHER HAD BEEN AMBITIOUS AND GONE ON TO HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN TO TEACHERS COLLEGE, OR NORMAL SCHOOL, IN ???. HE ENCOURAGED MR. KAND TO ATTEND HIGH SCHOOL . . ." OR YOU COULD JUST SWITCH THE WHOLE PARAGRAPH AROUND: "IN THAT DAY, THERE WERE ONLY TWO HIGH SCHOOLS . MR. KAND GRADUATED FROM H. H.S . . . ." YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SPELL OUT DATES. YOU CAN JUST SAY 1933 THROUGH 1935. AGAIN, WHAT ARE THE BIG FIVE? AND WHY WOULD THEY NOT HIRE JAPANESE PEOPLE? WHAT PLANTATION DID HE HAVE A JOB AT? EXPLAIN WHAT THE IMPORTANCE IS OF THE PLANTATIONS NOT BEING MECHANIZED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SENTENCE ABOUT TAKING RECRUITS. WHO STOPPED TAKING RECRUITS? THE ARMY? OR THE PLANTATIONS? THE LAST SENTENCE COULD ALSO BE PHRASED MORE CLEARLY: "MR. KAND'S BOSS WAS A MEMBER OF THE DRAFT BOARD, SO . . ." SENTENCE ONE: "PRIOR TO WWII, LABOR UNIONS HAD BEEN DIVIDED BY RACE . . ." SENTENCE 4: "MANLAPIT CONTINUED TO LEAD THE FILIPINO UNION TO STRIKE THROUGH OUT THE 20'S AND 30'S; BUT DUE TO POOR ORGANIZATION AND THE (INCREASING OR DECREASING?) INFLUX OF NEW WORKERS FROM THE PHILIPINES, THE STRIKES HAD LITTLE EFFECT. I THINK THAT THIS PARAGRAPH IS OUT OF PLACE? MAYBE IT SHOULD BE CLOSER TO THE END? HERE YOU HAVE MENTIONED WHAT IT WAS LIKE BEFORE THE WAR; BUT WHAT CHANGED AFTER THE WAR? ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS: "MY INTERVIEW WITH MR. KAND AND MY RESEARCH ABOUT LABOR UNIONS MADE ME REALIZE THAT THE ILWU CREATED A . . ." THESE ARE REALLY GOOD STRONG THOUGHTS!

Melinda wrote,

I GUESS THIS IS WHERE THAT TERM COMES FROM! THAT'S VERY INTERESTING! YOU KNOW WHEN SOMETHING REALLY SUCKS AND YOU SAY "THAT'S THE PITS!" YEAH, THIS STILL CONFUSES ME . . . I GUESS I'M NOT THAT GOOD AT QUICK MATH WHY COULDN'T THE GOVERNMENT NEGOTIATE? WHAT HAD THEY TRIED TO NEGOTIATE ALREADY? COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE WHY THE UPPER CLAS DECIDED TO HELP?

Cassandra told the same student,

You might want to go through your paper to see what you can cut out. Also your thesis was noticebly a bit long. For instance you could cut out some of the parts about Bevin. Then you could concentrate on how the strike changed Britain and people's views of the working class.

With these kinds of revision comments, students had something to work with. They could go back to their drafts and look to those specific places where changes needed to occur in order to revise their drafts.

 Encouragement

The density of feedback offered perhaps explains why little was offered in the way of encouragement. One non-participant voiced his troubles with writing, and only Carl responded, "Do the best you can, buddy." Incidentally, he noted in another message that he felt people in the class should have the opportunity "if they feel compelled to, superficially or as a cheer leader [to] encourage people who write/create."

Revelation

Carl was also one of the few who offered any information about himself during this assignment. He wrote,

I have to tell you also, Sue, that I grovel over anecdotal tidbits of what many call "trivia". I think it gives us insight into another world and I bore my wife to tears with stories that most people have never heard of . . . sorta like Cliff from "Cheers". (noooo! not THAT bad!).

Julie also made one comment that showed insight into who she is, "About respecting your elders?! I always respect my elders too!" Both of these comments were made as asides in their remarks to peer feedback. Other than these two random remarks students stuck with the task of completing their assignments.

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